What Is An F1B Goldendoodle?


What Is An F1B Goldendoodle?

An F1b Goldendoodle is the result of a cross between an F1 Goldendoodle and a purebred poodle. This means an F1b Goldendoodle is 75% poodle and 25% Golden Retriever.

Families with mild allergies will usually opt for the F1 Goldendoodle, while families with moderate allergies or moderate to severe allergies will go for the F1b Goldendoodle.

The terms used for parentage of “Designer” breeds like the Goldendoodles are F, F1, F2, F1B, F2B, etc. The designer breed is not a derogatory term but is used to classify the offspring from a pair of purebred dogs of different breeds.

What Is The Difference Between An F1 Goldendoodle And F1b Goldendoodle?

An F1 Goldendoodle is the first-generation cross between a Golden Retriever and a Poodle. If the F1 Goldendoodle is bred with a poodle, then the second generation offspring would be an F1b Goldendoodle.

An F1b Goldendoodle is also known as a “backcross” and is typically less prone to shedding. The coat has more curls and the curls are a lot tighter, more like a poodles hair coat.

Although allergic reactions are triggered by pet dander more often than pet fur or hair, the F1b Goldendoodle is considered to be more hypoallergenic-friendly. Since poodles are known for being a non-shedding breed, the 75% to 25% ratio of poodle over retriever usually carries more of this trait over to the F1b Goldendoodle.

Doodle dog generations for F1 vs F1b comparisons.

F1B Goldendoodles come in a variety of coat types including loose-wavy, straight & curly. They can have a variety of colors ranging from white to black, with tan, cream, apricot, red, and chocolate in between.

How Big Do F1b Goldendoodles Get?

Depending on the breeding and the attention paid to dominant genes of the parents, F1b Goldendoodles are available in these sizes:

  • Standard size- Approximately 50+ pounds 
  • Medium size– Approximately 30-50 pounds
  • Small size– Approximately 15-30 pounds

The F1B Goldendoodle is recommended for people who have allergies to animals. They are likely to have a wavy or curly non-shedding coat that will get matted if not brushed and groomed regularly. This is true of all wavy or curly pet coats that get too long.

What is Better, F1 or F1b Goldendoodle?

Both F1 Goldendoodles and F1b Goldendoodles can have the same dispositions and intelligence, plus they are both easy to train. The main difference is that if you have a family member that suffers from animal allergies, the F1b would be the best choice. Having more poodle than retriever means less hair shedding and so fewer allergens.

The F1 Goldendoodle (first generation) is going to have a higher chance of variance in which traits of either parent is dominant. The Golden Retriever traits may dominate this generation in this litter, which means they are less hypoallergenic and shed more. They may even look like a Golden Retriever more than the poodle parent.

The next litter may be the opposite and favor the poodle breed more and the Golden Retriever breed less. This would make the F1 Goldendoodles of this generation more hypoallergenic and better for families with moderate to severe allergies. The puppies might also inherit the poodle temperament as well as the fur. A poodle temperament can be shy and they can suffer from loneliness and separation anxiety if left alone too much.

The F1b Goldendoodle is 75% poodle, 25% Golden Retriever and stabilizes the variances a bit more. This generation is more predictable in which breed’s traits each dog inherits. Your doodle should be calmer and easy-going like the Golden Retriever and intelligent like both breed types. Yes, your doodle should also shed less than a Golden Retriever dog with wavy hair would also.

We love our Goldendoodles no matter what, but it is so much better when the entire family is matched with the perfect dog temperament and non-shed feature in one package. Both breeds of the parents have their weak points and their strong points. Selective breeding with f1 and f1b types of generations produce hybrid puppies that combine the best qualities into one

Please note that F1b Goldendoodles are generally a bit more pricey than the F1 Goldendoodle, so budget accordingly.

What Are The Disadvantages Of F1 vs F1b?

Cross-breeding is done with the hopes of getting the best traits of each parent, but it isn’t always a sure thing. Many of the undesirable traits may not manifest themselves until the puppy has grown for some time.

For instance, the poodle parent can be high-strung and hyper-active. They are also prone to certain illnesses, such as retinal atrophy, cataracts, allergies, and skin problems. Poodles may be prone to Von Willebrand’s disease, a clotting issue much like hemophilia, but milder.

Golden retrievers, as with most large breed dogs, are prone to hip dysplasia. They can also get cataracts, Subvalvular Aortic Stenosis, Osteochondrosis Dissecans, Allergies, Gastric Dilatation-Volvulus (bloat), Epilepsy, and Hypothyroidism.

Be sure and get the health clearances from the breeder, and consider pet health insurance.

As you can see from the various genetic maladies each breed inherits, it tends to be a stronger Goldendoodle that is more poodle than Golden Retriever. Since the F1b is more poodle than an F1 Goldendoodle is, they have fewer medical issues as well as they shed less. A little research into the puppies generations should yield the hybrid you have been looking for. Most prospective doodle owners have in mind what color and type of coats they want in their doodles.

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How Often Do You Groom An F1 and F1b Goldendoodle?

Since the coat is much like a poodle’s dense, curly coat, you will need to brush them quite often. This will prevent matting and promote a healthy and beautiful appearance. Use a large slicker brush with a medium bristle to get through the thick fur along the back and sides.

Clipping your Goldendoodle’s coat is part of the professional grooming regimen and should be done every three to six weeks on adult dogs.

If your pet has already developed mats, use a de-matting brush, and take the time to clean the coat gently. Removing mats can hurt if not done carefully and with patience.

Goldendoodles should be bathed every two to three weeks, with a good, long soak to fully saturate their naturally dense coat. Use lukewarm water with a mild shampoo/conditioner, optionally with aloe and aromatics.

So, What Is An F1bb Goldendoodle?

Here is a fun one to decipher. These pups are also called the backcross Goldendoodle or Multigen and are the result of pairing a standard Poodle with an F1B Goldendoodle.

This produces an 87.5% Poodle and 12.5% Golden Retriever mix. This higher percentage of Poodle is likely to have little to no shedding compared to the other mixes.

An F1bb Goldendoodles personality and disposition is going to be most like the standard poodle. They are very friendly, intelligent, and outgoing with tons of energy.

Final Thoughts

We love our Goldendoodles and want them to be healthy and happy in our family. If you are looking for a long term relationship with your hybrid dog, do a basic search into the breeder and the dog parents.

Look into any of the Goldendoodles history back one or two generations will give you the information you want to have before you adopt a new family member. Your household along with your F1 Goldendoodle (or F1b Goldendoodle) can look forward to many happy years together.

Chuck Wilson

I am a dog parent in Hot Springs Village, Ar. with over 45 years of raising and training dogs. I created this site to help fellow Doodle owners with up-to-date information and tips for raising your puppy right!

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